Article 5126 of vmsnet.pdp-11: Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!sousa.amt.tay1.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!altair.krl.caltech.edu!shoppa From: shoppa@altair.krl.caltech.edu (Tim Shoppa) Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 Subject: Re: Fuzzball? Date: 17 Nov 1995 00:40:16 GMT Organization: Kellogg Radiation Lab, Caltech Lines: 50 Message-ID: <48gllg$csb@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.krl.caltech.edu In article , Johnny Billquist wrote: >>>As far as the filesystem goes, it would seem to me that it would be >>>nice to implement a filesystem that allows longer filenames to be used >>>(at least 25 characters). >> >>I think particularly in the 11 world where file system chaos reigns, the >>ultimate OS would definitely have to support installable file system >>drivers. That way you could mount RSTS volumes and ODS-1 volumes and >>DOS/BATCH volumes, and not have to use FILEX on any of them. Plus you could >>do a much better job of integrating ANSI and DOS-11 (and OS!) magtapes. But >>Fuzzball may not be the place to do this stuff, it's not intended to be a >>really big system. > >Well, RSX actually supports "installable filesystems" as you call >them. You just write yourself an ACP that understands the filesystem >you are interested in, and then you mount the disk with that ACP, and >away you go. Maybe one day when I'm bored I'll take a look at >implementing an RT11-Filesystem ACP. >As far as I know, the only ACP's every written is ODS-1, a partial >ODS-2 and ANSI Magtape. For more details on writing your own ACP, check out the directory /pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/utils/acp by anonymous ftp from sunsite.unc.edu. It looks to be very thorough. >>Of course, I *like* 6-letter names. They force you to think clearly. >>No really! > >RSX have 9+3. :-) > >>>If a Pascal compiler could be hacked >>>for this new version of Fuzzball, ("FuzzOS"?), and I've got the >>>sources for one that we could probably hack to work with the PDP-11, >> >>Did Swedish Pascal ever run on RT? Would you want it to? > >I would think Swedish Pascal worked under RT-11, but I'm not sure. As far as "universal languages" go, there's always DECUS C. For a *really* impressive example of what you can do with DECUS C, check out Alan Baldwin's latest TCPIP system for TSX, available by anonymous ftp from shop-pdp.kent.edu. It now supports a http demon running on a 11/73, even; try http://shop-pdp.kent.edu/ The connection is slow, but if you're patient you will be well rewarded... Tim. (shoppa@altair.krl.caltech.edu)